IEW 2021- 2024 CDC NIOSH+NACHC Running Meeting Notes
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Date of Meeting: Mar 25, 2024 |
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Date of Meeting: Mar 25, 2024 |
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Date of Meeting: May 13, 2024 |
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Partner Update
Associations of physician burnout with organizational electronic health record support and after-hours charting https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8068427/pdf/ocab053.pdf | Ray | Ray - get Workforce team involved? Exchange info on this? |
H5N1 Dairy farmers, farm workers Can NACHC help CHCs participate in any CDC initiatives?
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Options to Explore for Industry & Occupation Data Collection NIOSH is excited about requirements HTI 1 rule, ODH code system & vocabulary, and also it is a big challenge to implement the large I & O value sets. Testing other mechanisms - NIOSH sister developed the industry & occupation auto-coder tool - machine-learning, API
Ray: Very similar to efforts in SDOH Z-coding from free-text using a Large Language Model (LLM) David: NIOSH working on adding Occupation & Industry to SDOH models using codes that already exist. Michelle - NIOCCS tool? Yes, based on that. Amanda - Would like to see this tested in real time in a clinic - pilot would help |
| David and co can help set up a demo and NACHC can help find pilots for usability and coding. Ray can reach out to partners to invite them if it’s ok. Ray will reach out to partners to get their data |
Comms 878-02 IEW CTA2 Communication Strategy 4.30.24.docx
| Andrea/Ray | Andrea send deliverable re: Comms plan. AP follow up on Journal Club |
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| Andrea/David | David & Co. can create a video thanks to point out the impact of the data collection for the La Casa staff!!!
Change appt to 3pm on 6/3 and rest of series to informatics@ Shirley off Genny off |
Date of Meeting: Apr 1, 2024 |
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Updates Data and partners
Communications to dissemination NACHC ODH Implementation Guide
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Date of Meeting: Mar 25, 2024 |
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Desired Outcome: A decision (or next steps to a reach a decision) on whether we can co-organize a Journal Club on ODH to help disseminate the NACHC Implementation Guide and CDC Resources.
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Desired Outcome: A decision (or next steps to a reach a decision) on whether we can co-organize a Journal Club on ODH to help disseminate the NACHC Implementation Guide and CDC Resources.
Ray Look up articles for the “for more information” chat post during the session |
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Date of Meeting: Mar 4, 2024 |
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Conferences
a. AOHC b. AMIA CIC
VIVE Conference last week – Health IT Industry
a. High heat issues –
Partners
a. Example: Truckers – substance use, stimulant use
a. This was a full network implementation – any one of their users is therefore using athenahealth and has access to the ODH.
Recent focus on Vendors
Submission of Data
Dissemination Strategy
Next Meeting April 1, 2024
Comment period for USCDI v5 is open.
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Date of Meeting: Feb 5, 2024 |
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NACHC Updates
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Questions re: Z Codes
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Sustainability
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NACHC has proposed four short, animated videos as the deliverables related to the communications plan. 3 would use the User Stories, and one would go into slightly more depth on the Implementation Guide and NIOSH resources. |
Capturing structured employment status? The message that they need to be more comprehensive about capturing it - but they are now aligning with the coding sets from NIOSH and PHINVADS - it was being recorded as different things… They can now find it. |
Ray submitted for the NCQA information summit - even though outside of the grant year, but we want to disseminate.
Michelle will do an AECOM session on the importance of research on this. |
Date of Meeting: Nov 6, 2023 |
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Michele’s AAFP Presentation | 2 sessions - 2 hours each - didactic and problem-basedlearning session. Session times were not ideal. Used La Casa as case. Take away - good to have a message of Prevention - so that we don’t find that people are coming for end-stage issues and only finding out then. Dr. Saito covered legal issues and questions. Have we reached out to AAMC? on issues around taking the history… they do likely have work as a subject in Bates training materials. | Julia - any contacts at AAMC who might work on projects re: taking history, including work.. Michele will see if she knows anyone at AAMC |
ODH Employment Field - Amanda | Amanda, David, gEnny - went to Epic playground with colleague - under Employment Status in SDOH section - maybe initiated by Gravity project? Raymonde: Epic Wheel is the Epric proprietary screening, largely based on PRAPARE and another questionnaire. In History, under Social economic, it has occupation and employer fields. Occupation field is free text, but employer name is a drop-down list. With Employer Name you can figure out NAICs codes. Maybe via DOL O*Net Michele’s Epic instance in her system has the dropdowns but they link to census codes… | Ray to investigate w/our partners Are they able to find the SDOH or History/Socioeconmic in their Epic (and other) instances. Can they find it? How deep is it buried in the layers/easy/difficult to find? Reach out to Amanda if questions. |
eCR Challenge | Who participated? AllianceChicago and HCN mentioned that they are working on ODH eCR challenge. Katie Dodd is NIOSH’s contact for APHL - we could have partners meet re: challenge. Deadline for submission of evidence and the agency that would do the reporting Nov 17, 2023 | Andrea put eCR on agenda for next All Partner meeting. |
LinkedIn Live response from Ray’s network. | Colleagues found it and watched! It’s also uploaded to NACHC’s YouTube channel. |
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Year 2 Final Report - any comments? | The Lessons Learned section was helpful. We have learned about what clinics can do locally - like the ODH vocabulary… (in contrast to vendor -level). Continue to talk with clinics about opportunities to use this even if it is only the 2-3 digit or API NIOX tool to code it, or even free text. All approaches valid at this point! Continue to socialize using this info and what would you do with these data - what if you know how many firefighters, farmworkers, etc. Docs get excited about the idea of looking at prevention - helps with addressing burn-out because there IS something they can do pro-actively. |
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Graphic for rural health bulletin/newsletter | Deadline - 11/8. Not the ODH Guide | Andrea to send link to Ray of Podcast with Dr. Chung-Bridges and Dr. Thom. Ray will send by Nov 7, 2023
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Charter for Year 6 878-03 ODH NACHC NIOSH Project Charter.docx |
| Andrea send Charter |
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Harvest Meeting Monday July 1 still 2pm at our usual meeting time? or are ppl likely to take that whole week off? |
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Does NACHC owe anything to NIOSH? |
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Poll for kickoff |
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Date of Meeting: Sep 25, 2023 |
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Year 3 approach
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Year 2 Close Out Year 2
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Date: Aug 7, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy @Andrea Price (Deactivated) | @David Blackley (Unlicensed)
@Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) Shirley Burton |
Data - Raymonde is working on getting 1) the number of Essential Workers using NIOSH crosswalk and 2) the number of Essential Workers based on the vaccine phases. |
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Funding - NIOSH has committeed the funds and completed the transfer form to CSTLTS. Tech Review and authorizing doc. Hoping for Round 2 Sept 1. Technical Review: No response required. |
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David’s thoughts on priorities, activities, etc. HCN seems to be in the forefront, although are using 2-digit industry and occupation codes rather than full - good to continue to do that; if they are able to stretch to the 3-digit code and keep us apprised of progress, that would be helpful. Raymonde - good one-year goal. Focus on one vs. keep going with all three $240K The podcast showed their momentum, do they have other activities in the works; would they be interested in telling another story via podcast? Helping to get step-wise instruction for the other two (NACHC will have Action and Implementation Guides for review soon). More focus and depth in data collection and expanding on how they use the data - and translating it into public/population health action. Raymonde - There should be a clinical use case as an output - esp if all three networks are involved. Julia - Does it add to our knowledge/progress to continue with data collection vs other activities? What would we like to see?
IEW vs/and ODH? Collection of high quality structured ODH work information in a variety of use cases.
| Julia suggests checking with each partner to gauge their interest level, desire to go into a third year. |
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Date: Jun 29, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy
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@Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) Shirley Burton |
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July 19 1pm Harvest Meeting welcome - David suggested that his Division Director might say a few introductory words - we’d like to put that person’s name on agenda? Is that confirmed? |
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Data will be coming in 7/31/2023, NACHC will be receiving, inputting data and creating dashboards; will provide a brief final report that includes the third partner, HCN. |
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Action Guide is in review and edits - short, includes Implementation Guide but has step by step instructions for integrating ODH into EHR. |
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Partner Implementation Slides - Partners are working on Harvest slides, so have not updated these. |
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Date: May 15, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy @Andrea Price (Deactivated) | @David Blackley (Unlicensed)
@Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) (on vacation) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) (not present) Shirley Burton |
Conferences Feedback/Followup from conferences? AMIA CIC - slide deadline was last week, they were submitted. Next week Wed May 24, will be in Chicago starting Tuesday May 23.
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Funding News? We aim to wrap up our work, want to let partners know.
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| David will pass the word to Janet - a description of the work, the workplan - on to his Division for their wish list. |
Implementation Guide & Dissemination (in formatting - Andrea finding out ETA). |
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Year 1 Final Report sent in to NIOSH TMs. |
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Update on Partners: Single slides: Year 2 IEW Partner Implementation Slides - IEW - Identifying Essential Workers - Confluence (atlassian.net) Full slides for All Partners Calls: 2023-05-17 All Partners call slides.pptx Where is AllianceChicago in terms of implementing I & O data Two site names:
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| Ray - Where is AllianceChicago in terms of implementing I & O data? |
Serendipitous results Daniel Parras at HCN has been speaking with Epic on system… |
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HCN asked for translations into Spanish for value sets, Ray sent them and cc’d the Epic team. |
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Date: Apr 10, 2023 |
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@Julia Skapik (Deactivated) @Andrea Price (Deactivated) | @David Blackley (Unlicensed) @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) Shirley Burton |
Admin Project Funding Project Year 3 - CSTLTS Year 6
| Julia | Julia to send a paragraph to David about the process for continuation. |
Partner Progress through March 2023 Year 2 IEW Partner Implementation Slides
| Andrea | For Michele - wanting to spread Epic instance to UCSD, can we get info from HCN on how they are doing on that implementation. OCHIN builds custom structures within Epic (vs SMART on FHIR, which costs because Epic charges). We do not know if one instance is generalizable to other networks. They may not have built it to scale implementation. NACHC can facilitate this discussion - UCSD says “We’ll wait for Epic to roll it out.” It would be helpful to have information from the implementers. |
Data Dashboards
AC is captures occupation and industry reported much more than OCHIN. NACHC is working with the partners to improve data. Referring them back to the Guide would help for Employment Status - there are only 3 bins in the Guide. Employed, Unemployed, not in the workforce. That is a next step. Helpful for health centers to see what is coming in, reflecting back to them what they are getting so they can see a reflection of what is coming. If we have industry, why don’t we have data for occupation?
| Jayson | Andrea to check - is HCN able to send data? Ask Jayson if we need to do anything to unblock this. |
Implementation Guide
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Conferences
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Harvest Meeting - Can you all make it on July 19 at 1pm? Partners are already scheduled to meet at that time.
| Andrea | Block off 1.5 hours. |
Date: Mar 20, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy @Andrea Price (Deactivated) | @David Blackley (Unlicensed) @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) Shirley Burton |
NACHC Updates
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NIOSH Updates | CDC NIOSH Team |
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Conferences
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Date: Feb 27, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy @Andrea Price (Deactivated) | @David Blackley (Unlicensed) @Burton Shirley (Unlicensed) @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) Shirley Burton |
Update on Partner progress
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Implementation Guide is now complete, NACHC is charged with disseminating it. NACHC will send it to our partners, notify HL7 and put it in NACHC newsletter. Would NIOSH like to contribute categories or contacts?
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Conferences and Presentations: March - NACHC Policy & Issues Forum April - ACOEM Conference Speakers for ACOEM (or P&I?)have had issues - HCN lead Dr. Chung may not be ablet to come so it might be Daniel Parras. Ray will confirm. Deadline for AMIA CIC was last November, for AMA main conference has been extended. This was not in NIOSH budget, so they’d have to discuss if anyone from NIOSH could attend.
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Date: February 6, 2023 |
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@Raymonde Uy @Andrea Price (Deactivated) - has a conflict | @David Blackley (Unlicensed)
@Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed)
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Recent Activities
| Ray | Last change to comment on IG data update noted. |
NIOSH speaker for P&I? | Ray | None from CDC.
3 speakers finalization:
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Admin: Move Monday meeting 2/20 because of President’s Day. Change cadence to monthly?
| Ray | @Andrea Price (Deactivated) , move next meeting to Feb 27, 2023
Meeting cadence will start from that meeting. Possibly once / month |
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Dec 12, 2022
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@Julia Skapik (Deactivated) |
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@Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed)
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@Andrea Price (Deactivated) | Shirley Burton | @David Blackley (Unlicensed) |
@Crystal Nwachuku (Deactivated) |
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Potential Technical Solution from discussion with another partner.
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| @Raymonde Uy will bring this up on our next All Partner call (Andrea to create agenda for meeting date). |
Any thoughts, feedback from kickoff Meeting 11/30/2022? Michele is working with AEOCOM on how to separate out the privacy issues for patients who are also employees. Techniques for helping patients become more willing to share employment information.
| All | @Raymonde Uy will be speaking with OCHIN - it was to give live in October, but Ray will be getting a better grasp on timeline and roadblocks.
@Raymonde Uy will ask about a contact for privacy issues for patients on next call with OCHIN. |
Status of Implementation Guide revision based on Genny’s comments
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Admin - Contracting is in process with the partners. | Andrea |
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Did AMIA Clinical Informatics Conference write to Genny and Michele for disclosures? | Raymonde | Yes, done. |
ACOEM notification date? |
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Next meeting will be January 9th. |
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Nov 14, 2022
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F/U from AMIA |
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Letter to ONC | Michele | |
Status of Implementation Guide |
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Final Report |
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Charter |
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Status of Evaluation and Outcomes Plan |
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Conversation with AllianceChicago They have gotten approval for their instance of EPIC to include the ODH. This was a challenge that has taken almost one year to Epic - Check to see if our partners can go to Epic customer conference(s) to show what they are doing and let others know. NACHC has gone the farthest to implement, what’s the next step? |
| Schedule a follow-up with the participants of the Epic meeting from October. The Epic team was the team charged with building the Occ Med, can ask if they can id the Epic teams that develop/integrate the work definitions for primary care.
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ACOEM Conference abstract acceptance notices? No news. |
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Oct 17, 2022
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@Julia Skapik (Deactivated) | @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) |
@Raymonde Uy | Shirley Burton | @England Lucinda (Unlicensed) |
@Andrea Price (Deactivated) (tentative) |
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Update from Janet Lee re: finalizing the revised plan for FY23. | David
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We would like to have more details about what the clinics did as far as employment status, in order to address the need for real-world implementation to support inclusion in USCDI. | Genny
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HCN asked for a webinar from NACHC/NIOSH “that provides training on” ODH/work information, to help to “overcome barriers between patients and staff/providers.” Is this still of interest? | Genny
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Discussion of Kick Off
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Request for NIOSH to review charter - Andrea will send when drafted and internal review is complete | Andrea, Ray, Crystal | Julia and Ray to review Charter, then Kathy, then NIOSH TMs. |
Status of ODH Podcast and Information Sheet
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Sep 19, 2022
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Status of abstract submissions |
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Status of two-pager on Dairy FarmWorkers and Status of Podcast |
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Status of funding | Award was in the NOA last week.
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Data Status | Genny talking with AC about a webinar - Fred Rachman AC reached out about that. |
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Agenda for ODH in Epic meeting 10/3 |
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Rescheduling the meeting on Code Sets |
| crystal is working rescheduling with Genny |
Sep 8, 2022
@Raymonde Uy | @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) | @Genny Luensman (Unlicensed) |
@Andrea Price (Deactivated) | Shirley Burton | @David Blackley (Unlicensed) |
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Status of conference abstract drafts/submissions
Which track?
| Raymonde | Julia to approve title - Julia is out sick, so communications are slowing down.
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Status of data for 3 partners
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Agenda for meeting regarding integration of ODH in Epic Desired Outcome: Better understanding of the goal of integrating ODH into Epic, how implementation could progress in Epic instances.
Notes - OCHIN cannot make it Oct 3; go ahead and update them afterwards, include them on a follow-up if/when we have one. Epic Steering Committee (User group?) met on Tuesday. Genny - is this a good time to add other users? Michele - this is the start of a conversation to introduce Epic to what we are trying to do. Julia - we can invite the Epic reps to the Epic user group. | Date: October 3 Andrea & All - agenda? | |
Status of Podcast | Andrea | |
Genny - Do we have what the person said vs. what gets recorded?
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Aug 22, 2022
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Year 2 Funding | NACHC has not received a NOA. Funding has been split into two rounds, round 2 NOAs are still outstanding. Round 3 NOAs will be shared no later than Aug 31, 2022 |
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AOHC Conference 2023 Occ Med in Philadelphia Mid-April 16-19 2023, abstract deadline end of Sept. | Can Dr. Chung speak on a panel about the dairy farmers? Ray will send the info to NIOSH for review by Sep 9, 2022 This conference is more clinically oriented as opposed to informatics. Michelle Whitt and Michele Kowalski-Mcgraw will be there. Speakers: | |
HIMSS Abstract April 17, 2023 - April 21, 2023 in Chicago | HIMSS Call for Proposals due Sep 12, 2022 . Usually an educational session per Ray. This should also be cleared. Genny will be at HIMSS. Speakers: Raymonde and Genny | |
AllianceChicago’s industry and coding scheme | AC uses Athena One. Other two partners are using Epic. NACHC is meeting with AllianceChicago at CHI. | |
Sites that implemented towards end of CoAg Year | When will we have data from partners? | |
Meeting with partners who are or will be Epic users | HCN and OCHIN. Could include others who use EPIC and want to include ODH. There is a steering committee at Epic re: Occ Med, which is being missed in current record. We’d be meeting with Epic reps. | |
NACHC Staff at CHI | NACHC staff in Chicago at CHI from Aug 26 to 31. | AMIA - Genny, Shirley are going. |
Jul 25, 2022
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Year 2 Funding | David | CDC has submitted everything as expected. NOA was released but NACHC has not received it yet. NACHC Contracts team is checking. | Set up Kick Off Meeting. |
USCDI Data Elements | Genny | Occupation and occupation industry are officially in USCDI. Starts next year - per RAY when V3 goes into effect. At that time, each of the partners will put in requests to their EHR vendors to include the new elements. Voluntary attestation in 2023. https://www.healthit.gov/isa/taxonomy/term/3381/uscdi-v3 Set up call with AllianceChicago about their coding? Aiming too high and broad or misunderstanding of terms - has to be a call, difficult to mark up the spreadsheet. | Set up a meeting with Michelle and her Epic contact with Dr. Chung at HCN.
Set up call between Genny and AllianceChicago to provide feedback on the coding. |
AMIA Submission Status | Michelle | Ray’s submission had positive reviews and feedback, but the scientific program committee rejected the submission. He will resubmit to AMIA CIC 2023 (Chicago, IL May 23-25, 2023) and HIMSS. |
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Evaluation - Final Report | David | Offer of TA from Shirley to working with the contractees on their evaluation. |
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| NACHC delayed the first pull until partners have a larger amount of data. | Set up an IEW kickoff, ask Shirley to review Data Request Form |
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Jul 7, 2022
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| David Blackley | Looks like it will be $240 - he will submit TR We can start to think about how to tweak the budget and plan. CDC NIOSH had expectations that the tools would be easy for sites to use - this project revealed that it was not as they thought. Julia - 1st year is often about expectation-setting as well as admin. Spread and scale is easier after y1. If EHR does not have native support for a change, it takes a lot more time - when it is new data collection into the mix, it is an exponential layer of work. Wants to work directly with the partners, providing TA By the end of year 2, we can ask how feasible is it to extend to another site? |
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| Revision: He will have to ask us to respond to response required because he has to in making this change - he has to check that off. The workplan can stay the same with Julia’s new line about implementing the full ODH. Don’t need to revise plan, just budget for same activities. |
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Jul 5, 2022
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Harvest Meeting |
| Jul 11, 2022 from 2pm to 4pm End of the year meeting - Focusing on the partner experience and lessons learned. Each partner will present their own data. Discussion and steps for scale and spread at the end. 2022-07-11 IEW Harvest Meeting Partner Slide Template.pptx David will give the CDC welcome. USCDI decision? ONC is still working on it. (Julia) What are the next steps as part of summary of Harvest Meeting - discussion of how to align with the ODH granularity for future? Organizations may have been more focused on where would they fit this into their workflow and data warehouse. If the ideal is patient-input data, what can they do to get there? What are the barriers? Care message? Genny will be joining but is officially off - | |
Review Data Dictionary |
| Genny can put notes in the spreadsheet - might be best to do as a discussion with Ray/Julia. Occupation/Industry are not clearly delineated - need more understanding. Industry is the business. The linkages were intended to be optional support - maybe they were using them more as a mandate? Really needs to be a discussion - if structured this way, the AC results cannot be used outside of AC. AC can make a shift; we can work with them, so let’s start with the spreadsheet. Genny will start with high level comments and then we can see where to go with the questions and who can help resolve. | |
AMIA Conference FMX |
| Michele will be at the meeting. Michele - CME module due July 27 for FMX - do we want to integrate info from this project in this? 1-3 hours. | |
Year 5 Plan |
| As far as NACHC knows, NACHC is to wait until the NOA is issued to respond to the Technical Review. NACHC revised the budget to $125; now we need to review the plan and re-size it. David and team needs to respond to revised plan with the Technical Review by July 11. It is this formal TR that goes back to NACHC. The bottom line could change.
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Jun 13, 2022
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Harvest Meeting Jul 11, 2022 from 2 to 4pm | Crystal | @Crystal Nwachuku (Deactivated) | |
Training Products Call /Training Materials | Genny/Ray | Julia: To what extent are we capturing usual vs. current occupation? Genny: In COVID, it seemed that current was more important. But both are important.
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Alliance Chicago Code Sets and ODH Data Elements | Ray | ||
Admin/Next Year Funding and Work Plan | Andrea | Last Genny heard, we did not get COVID funding. Genny suggests emailing David since he will be in and out of the office over the next couple weeks. |
May 16, 2022 Code Sets Check In with Alliance/Partners/Genny and Michele
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Suggestions for Improving Code Sets | Shannon/Genny/Ray | Genny suggests incorporating occupational groups because selecting an occupational role based solely on industry may be limiting. What if the patient's occupational role does not fall under the selected industry?
Another suggestion from Genny: If patients provide employer information, EHR may automatically select the industry (employer database)?
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May 16, 2022
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Harvest Meeting Jul 11, 2022 from 2 to 4pm | Crystal | New date is confirmed. The Harvest Meeting will be held on July 11th from 2 to 4pm EST. | |
Other Meetings | Crystal |
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Next Year Funding and Work Plan | David | David tried to submit the technical review using the dashboard but not sure about the follow up. Work plan for carryover activities? | |
Code Sets | Ray/Genny | Ray shared the industry/job role drop-downs from AllianceChicago. Genny mentioned, for example, that janitors may fall under several industry choices. Need to be careful about this. Occupational roles are not necessarily unique to a certain industry. Genny also explained that if the information is collected on paper and then entered by someone else, context may be lost. Industry/role entered by the data entry person may not reflect the patients actual occupation. How are we validating this data?
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Article | Genny | https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ajim.23361 Genny shared this article from a separate group in NIOSH. May be good to review. |
May 2, 2022
Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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NIOSH Debrief Questions | Julia | NACHC-NIOSH 4-25 meeting debrief with notes
Admin Carryover - NACHC may be able to continue some of the work using carryover funds if available. Year 2 funding priorities:
Resources for Patient-Generated Capture of Industry and OccupationTraining Materials Health Choice Network Training Slides for IEW Project LaCasa_IEW_Industry_And_Occupational_Roles_03.15.2022 (1).xlsx |
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Harvest Meeting Jun 30, 2022 11am to 1pm | Julia/Andrea |
Possible dates: Monday, July 11th 2pm-4pm
Thursday, July 14th 11am-1pm Tuesday, July 19th 1pm-3pm | |
Identifying essential and frontline workers using structured work information
Follow-up with NACHC re: 4/25/2022 all-partners meeting
Thanks for facilitating the meeting on Monday. We stand to learn a lot from this partnership and look forward to continuing the collaboration. Most importantly, we want to focus on the goals outlined in the work plan: e.g., clinic partners collecting ODH data, reporting ODH data to NACHC, analyzing ODH data, etc.
We expected there to be implementation challenges and see them as a learning opportunity. We are eager to provide technical support (e.g., informatics, clinical, and occupational health SMEs). For example, we would be happy to discuss the ODH collection guide and how it can be useful for each implementing partner to address some of their challenges.
Please see below for a few observations and questions we would like to discuss from the all-partners call:
Staff are collecting and entering patient work information and it is creating backlogs.
What are the barriers to patient-entered data --- are they strictly technical?
Would it work to have patients enter data using a FHIR app?
Since the partners are having staff enter patient work information, how can we support them so that appropriate vocabulary and value sets are used?
Some patients are reluctant to share information about their work and employment.
How can we better understand the reasons for this?
How can we support clinic partners in consistently explaining the purpose of this data collection in a way that might reduce patient concerns?
Overarching topics for our next call
How can we help the clinic partners become more familiar with the
ODH collection guide and use it as a resource?
Given the state of ODH collection by the partners, what is NACHC’s plan and timeline for achieving the goals in the current work plan?
What is the best way for NIOSH to provide more SME knowledge to NACHC and the clinic partners?
Apr 18, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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USCDI Comments | NACHC will be responding to USCDI with a letter | |||
Value Sets | 14-Digit codes on ?FINVADS? Friday 10am call - or by email. FINVADS Hot Topics → ODH → downloadable spreadsheets with crosswalks supplied. Genny has a conflict but Lauren could make the 10am call. | |||
All Partners Call on 4/25 | Meeting Page: 2022-04-25 IEW All Partner Call with CDC Meeting notes - IEW - Identifying Essential Workers - Confluence (atlassian.net) Identifying Essential Workers - Ray Partner slides 2022-04-25 IEW All Partner Call with CDC Meeting notes Michele can help on the podcast, be interviewed. The writer can help the partners elaborate on the stories. | |||
Conferences | AMIA Submission? They have not announced yet. NACHC FOM/IT - the NACHC team will talk about bundling SDOH with ODH. Michele will be speaking at May 3 at AOHC. |
Apr 4, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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NACHC Update
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Note - the higher-level hierarchies might mask the more specific choices that are below the top level heading. It was designed to help the person entering the data to find who they are - use as suggested. Have them follow the guide as much as possible and find out any implementation challenges - try to do it the way the guide says and identify issues as we go.
Julia - We'll be speaking with the partners; we speak with them regularly. | |||
Deliverables for NACHC SOW | we are on #4 and 5, A6 OHCIN is there? we do this at the end in harvest meeting A7 - The CARES act requires the patient to confirm their employer - USCDI V3. It was posted to ACEOM web site. NACHC is also drafting a document to submit comments. | AP put on agenda for Harvest Meeting - prep. Genny will share USCDI comments | ||
Presentations/Conferences | See where we are with partners at the end of month. FMX - not accepted to present at FMX, so propose an article for Am Journ Fam Med - description of ODH and intent. Position Statements by organizations would also be a good effort - does NACHC work with other organizations that have position statements. PM&R Practice? No they don't collect - orthopedics - mostly in free text or not at all. Ray submitted for AMIA panel in DC, there will be an email asking for the co-presenters to fill out the forms. USCDI V3 webinar Friday Apr 8, 2022 - to present issues on which we are hoping they will comment, showing them occupation and industry elements. Ray has slides. Noon Eastern, speakers getting on earlier. | @Raymonde Uy to send the slides to Genny | ||
Publications | ||||
Mar 21, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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NACHC Update | Health centers dealing with delayed care workload Updating vendor products in EHR. Example: EPIC customers are planning upgrades this spring/summer. | |||
NIOSH Update | ||||
Meetings | AECOM 2023 Michele will be presenting May 3 AECOM 2022. @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) has proposed for family medicine but has not heard back. FMX. HL7 in May - Is NIOSH balloting for ODH? Genny - has been collecting changes that could be made. Can do a mini-implementation guide on ODH for a specific use case - using a smaller number of elements. Here's one way of doing the ODH guide if you cannot do all of the questions in your context. A Guide on how to implement the standard. Hoping to ballot in September - in the Public Health workgroup. | @Julia Skapik (Deactivated) slide template for partners for All Partner call on 4/25/22. Topics:
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Publications |
1.x patients entered info in their records in this time period, when data was missing it was most often y, descriptive statistics - what we see when we try to collect data at scale in a non-clinical interview setting. Not the model itself, but how we get to the person seeing the patient. 2. Specs for an informatics publication; data experience of gathering, challenges, for how many patients were our partners easily able to capture data, quality of the data as it comes in - how much utility is there in the data at present? What are health centers doing to improve? how easy was it for health centers to get their data accurately into the model? JOEM - Challenges and facilitators in collecting data and reporting it to NACHC - how NACHC collects and analyses. Work will start with the person entering data into the EHR... what were the challenges. 3 - Probability of status of essential worker. Pre: project: how much of their data had employment information Post project: how much data now exists? Future: if there is another surge, MMWR article could describe how partners are using this model to id essential workers quickly. Audiences: who needs to hear what ideas? What do we want them to do with this information? | |||
Admin | Julia has jury duty Mar 28, 2022 Lauren has accepted a new position end of April 29th. @David Blackley (Unlicensed) will be the lead, Shirley, Genny technical monitoring and support as SME, Michele will be on. Will be working on vaccine injury and compensation. Working on funding future years. Friday April 29 David is out; Lauren's last day. Not may 3rd. Monday April 25 at 2pm for All Partners call | Andrea will send a note for the All Partners Call. |
March | April | May | |
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AllianceChicago | Recruit and engage | Create plan to implement, implement | |
HCN | Implement in CHC, train staff | ||
OCHIN | Recruit and engage | Get approval from collaborative, solve tech challenges | Implement (tentative) |
Mar 7, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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Partner Update | Updates from Alliance, OCHIN and HCN
AllianceChicagoBased on the contract execution date, we are currently working on recruiting our pilot health centers. We have 2 CHCs that we will be speaking with in the coming week who are very interested. Once the site is confirmed, we will meet with them to assess the feasibility of the ODH data elements and get a sense of the implementation timeline. We anticipate meeting the 4/30 (delayed deadline) for the 1st set of deliverables. We have noted in Confluence that we capture employment status and current occupation (can be dropdown or free text) and we will follow up with NACHC once the site is confirmed. HCNAfter evaluating the feasibility of implementing the IEW project at HCN, we have recruited one of our hosted health centers (as well as identified a project champion at the health center). We are working to finalize our EMR system optimization to be able to capture the following occupational health elements: (1) adding the “Not in Labor Force” employment status (the only one we did not have already captured in the EMR) (2) adding in 20 high-level NAICS codes and descriptions to a new “Current Industry” field, (3) incorporating “Employer” data capturing into the health centers workflow (Employer name, address, city, state, zip) (4) adding in 98 of the Minor Group SOC codes and descriptions to a new “Patient Occupational Role” field that will also be able to keep a record of past employment. On February 25th we had our Kick off call with the health center and the following plan was discussed;
OCHINOne health center member is excited about this implementation and committed to engaging. They have started documenting employers and employment information they hadn’t previously been documenting in our existing fields. We currently have registration fields for employer (discrete), employment status (discrete) and occupation (free text) as well as a social history section for occupation (free text). We met with our analysts and got confirmation that it would be possible to add optional registration field for occupation (discrete) and industry (discrete). We would have to add this at the collaborative level, so we would need to have some collaborative wide conversations about whether that was agreeable to everyone. If we can get enough approval it could probably be implemented fairly quickly (May is the best case scenario). There are some challenges with how to switch from free text to a list (what would happen with existing data, etc.), so that is the biggest barrier other than the need to make the change at a collaborative level. Of course if Epic made it available automatically that would be great. | |||
Q: What is the lift to implement ODH for IT? A: Depends on the vendor and their contract structure, agreements for the change, software engineers, designers these partners were chose because they have inhouse expertise to make these changes. OCHIN has total control over their instance, but they have competing priorities. Same with the other two. | ||||
Abstract AMIA Proposal for Panel | Abstract is moving through the NIOSH side. The abstract is due Mar 9, 2022. | |||
Funding Plan | NACHC will draft a plan for next year and submit in case continuation funding can be found. Build on this work and ask partners to scale and spread beyond pilot sites. There is no funding coming from COVID projects; if funding comes from program funding, it's more likely to be in the range of $50,000 to $100,000. This would be a difficult level if NACHC were to fund the partners but could push some of the work forward. | |||
Meetings | schedule an all partners call with CDC. |
Feb 14, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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Partner Updates re: IT systems | Julia - We have spoke with 2 of 3 partners re: their systems. They are not sanguine about collecting the exact data, but may be close. We will be speaking with OCHIN, the 3rd partner. | |||
Updated Value Sets | Ray sent the 3rd value sets with the pairing. Does NIOSH have feedback? | |||
Action Items from last meeting | ||||
Admin |
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Date Jan 24, 2022
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting | For review | |||
UCSD v3 | ||||
ACOEM | ACOEM preferred essential worker project to advocate for immunizations FHIR app | to send the FHIR app one-pager to Michele Jan 24, 2022 | ||
Agenda for 1/27 Design Meeting | Intro and Welcome 5 min Intro from @Brewer Lauren (Unlicensed) and @Kowalski-Mcgraw Michele (Unlicensed) 15 min Draft IG content: 5 min
Implementation approaches: clarifications and questions: 10min
Adjourn How do we create multiple entries for one person with multiple jobs (as a common procedure)
| edit https://nachc.atlassian.net/l/c/uga0fCzW page to reflect Julia's agenda to the left Jan 24, 2022 | ||
Employment Status in ODH | Options in ODH
In UDS - captures status and additionally,
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Use the employment status in PRAPARE | ||||
From UDS Guidelines | Raymonde Uy Work Schedule | 74159-5 | 2.16.840.1.114222.4.11.7130 Weekly Work Days | 74106-3 | N/A Daily Work Hours | 87512-0 | N/A Work Classification | Paid work, self-employed | "When a person earns a salary or wage working for himself or herself, rather than working for someone else." | |||
Identifying Employment Type and Calculating FTEs Use employment contracts to determine FTE. For example, a physician hired as a full-time personnel who, per their employment contract, is only required to work four 9-hour sessions (36 hours) per week, is considered full-time. |
Date
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting | ||||
Implementation Guide | Julia Raymonde | Review Privacy of Occupation? Registration here means the process by which chc staff, part of the team is covered by HIPAA. Patient-entered information is okay, too. We can ask partners what their CHCs are doing - tablet that patient fills in or clipboard that is abstracted by MA onto EHR. | ||
Design Meeting on Jan 27, 2022 | We have an update meeting on Jan 24, 2022 We'd have a break in Raymonde's section for Lauren to talk
Michele would do an intro on background | |||
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Dec 13, 2021
Time | Item | Whom | Notes | Action Items |
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Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting | ||||
Progress on Clinical Architecture | Genny and Lauren were on the CA call last week but they have since updated the NAICs codes and relationships; and CA can show that to you on Friday Dec 17, 2021 during our weekly call if Genny and Lauren can attend and comment. Lauren is available, Michelle can attend. CA now has this so that other clients can use this. If NACHC reaches out to other terminology vendors, they can also use this with their clients. We are creating the slide templates for partners. We are polling for times for December kickoff and January design meeting. And to confirm the correct people to be on the call.
AP check to see if Michelle was on the poll |
2021-11-29 878 NIOSH + NACHC
Recruitment
We are/have spoken with HCN as third partner – they expressed strong interest and outlined a plan to implement into Greenway Intergy (some of their customers are moving to Epic so they will approach the ones who will stay on Intergy for now
Explaining to the patient why the information is being collected "A Guide on How to Implement" contains that language.
Environmental Scan
Michele completed the environmental scan—we edited with NIOSH and consider it complete as v1 for now (discussed last week)
Definition
Raymonde has - worked with CA to create element sets and upload the OMB and Census code sets into the Symedical framework.
IS NACHC proposing that partners base their data collection on ODH vocabulary? Yes.
Anything else we have done since November 1?--
December Kickoff
Times
Friday December 17 – 11:00am ET
Mon December 20 11:00am, 2:00pm ET, 3pm ET
NIOSH Base presentations (use already cleared presentations)
NIOSH Technical Guide
Julia – introduction to the goal of NACHC's work and what we want partners to come out with.
Admin – contracting
To do list for January meeting
Partner slides:
What fields related to employment/occupational health do you already have in your system?
January Implementation Design - 2 hours
January Meeting
Partner call at which they will present – create partner slide template
Materials to post on Confluence page for this meeting
Julia review and pull out items we need to communicate: RDH Technical Report ODH https://nachc.sharepoint.com/:b:/s/InformaticsTeam/ETNdNu8Y9c1BpO-90RPW2gEBQOEet4C3xpCo8Mefed5KYg?e=vxjyqi&isSPOFile=1
Environmental scan
Spring -
Pilot presentation to NIOSH partner regarding terminology
Presentation to vendors regarding terminology
Conference Presentations
AMIA deadline – for Fall 2022?
CSTE presentation 2022 – June 19-23, 2022 Louisville, KY
American Academy of Family Medicine – Washington, DC September 20-24, 2022
AOHC – Abstract already submitted by Michelle - early May 2022 Salt Lake City, UT
Action Items
Andrea would contact Genny to show her the terminology? 10am Friday 12/3.
Andrea will contact Lauren and Genny and Ray for terminology
Lauren Brewer received a Teams invitation?
She will send over
2021-11-15 NIOSH
We reviewed the document and discussed recruitment and the terminology work.
Oct 18, 2021
Attendees
NACHC Informatics Team | CDC NIOSH | CDC NIOSH |
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@Julia Skapik (Deactivated) @Raymonde Uy (Unlicensed) @Morgan Campbell (Deactivated) |
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Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting | ||||
Dates and Times Scheduled Tuesdays at ~2pm, outside of scheduled Governance calls | Every other week at 2pm Eastern | |||
Kick-Off Meeting Oct 14, 2021
Attendees
NACHC Informatics Team | CDC NIOSH | CDC NIOSH |
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@Kathleen McNamara (Deactivated) @Hasna Soulhi @Andrea Price Old Account (Deactivated) | Lauren Brewer, MPH, BSN - Lead | Shirley Burton - Public Health (did not hear the specialty) Katelynn Dodd - Epi Megan Early CSTLS CoAg Projectd Officer for 1802 Administration Management Lucinda England - Medical Officer Genny Luesman - project lead Barbara Wallace - Healthcare IT consultant Michele Kowalski-Mcgraw - Physician, UC San Diego and board certified in Occupatioal Medicine |
Agenda
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Review of Action Items from Previous Meeting | ||||
OT18-1802 Cooperative Agreement project Identifying Essential and Frontline Workers Using Structured Work Information | ||||
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| The NIOSH staff already put together the data lists this is a change since the RFP went out. | |||
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| Mondays are best for Michele. Monday 10/18 @2pm looks free. | |||
Lauren asked if NIOSH should contact CHCs? We said that we can provide that contact, but if they had a list of CHCs, we could include those. Lauren said AllianceChicago/HCN. Kathy suggested OCHIN as well. Could work with HCCNs, CHCs and or both. Conclusion: Once NACHC has seen the TR and responded, we can dig into the details, and we will set up a meeting right away with Julia and her team. Looking at Monday 10/18 2pm. |
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