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Date


Agenda

Women’s Health Post Partum project (CDS, GDM, eCQM)

  1. Welcome & Purpose

  2. CDC Welcome

  3. Partner Presentations - Lessons learned, best practices, summary of approach

  4. Discussion

  5. Year 4 Plans - longer term 

  6. Documentation

Materials

Discussion items


Agenda itemLeadStart TimeTime allottedSlide #NOTESNotes/Talking Points, Prompts
NACHC CAD Staff open the call10:30am
1
Test slide sharing to Mentimeter https://www.mentimeter.com/s/82ea5f1bc823b94c892af3a55be72963/fb6faea2447c/edit
Speakers join to test microphones and video
10:45am
1

Housekeeping11:00am1m2--


NACHC Welcome11:01am3m3

Obstetrical care and post partum care is not consistent

    • pregnancy date
    • pregnancy status outcomes
    • contraceptive counseling
  • Even with the shift to electronic records has not always improved over paper; on paper, it was easy to scribble at the top of the form a reminder
  • Some CHCs do full care through delivery, others refer out as soon as there is a positive pregnancy steps
  • This project looked at the links to improve follow-up


CDC Welcome11:04am6m3Future: Integrating hypertension control and (mental health? check transcript).. into this work 

Lisa - introductions for CDC guests

Turn mic over to Julia

Introduction to Harvest Meeting11:10am7m4 - 15

Julia Skapik (Deactivated)  announce that we are sending the Public-Facing Agenda - option to download will pop up - Alyssa will send the agenda.

  • Project goals and objectives
  • Findings of the previous 2 years of work
  • How the project has changed over time (Presidential elections, COVID, combining projects)
  • Purpose of today's Harvest Meeting
  • Introductions of team and guests will be done during each team's time

Partner Report Out - Alliance Chicago 

Roxane Padilla

Dr. Lisa Masinter


11:17am20m17 - 31

Introductions of team and guests


Partner Report Out - OCHIN

Dr. Michele Whitt

Dr. AnneMarie Overholser


11:37am20m32 - 40

See transcript for 11:39 where there were not slides.

Development of EHR (Epic) tool turns out to be iterative.  There was a plan, but as users saw the build, they had new thoughts on how it would best work.  Each service area made recommendations.

It is possible in Epic to see if the Express Lane was being used - are they having to add an order all the time? Which things could be added, taken away because not used?

Champions who are experienced and take ownership at each site is really important.

Kim Cardoso contributed to the training, appreciated the ability to test and iterate. They had the ability to do Express Lane but were not maximizing its use because it seemed like a distraction, but once it could be customized for the users needed.

Great example of use of EHR optimization when users are able to express what they need and see it implemented.

Introductions of team and guests
Data Summary12:00pm15m41 - 48

temporal order of when DM - 

More pp visitors got LARC than non pp women

  • Maybe this is because they get the prescription in the hospital, not the CHC
  • Most of the LARCs would be given in the hospital
  • If the hospital is a Catholic hospital, they will not get injectables there, patients will get them back in the office
  • The practitioner who sees PP patients will be more comfortable with (counseling? LARC?) at 12:09


  • Undocumented women will sometimes get a pp visit because their access to care ends after pregnancy.
  • Some of the population may have shown up as pregnant but did not carry to term, others may have transferred care to another location - we might want to look at those lost to follow-up.  We will pull out the data from the two categories, we can look at patterns.

Kate - Temporal sequence in the contraception data?  Do we know that it is after the pregnancy episode or just during the year in which there was a pregnancy?

Pedro - about half the pregnancy sample has a valid delivery date.  We can use those cases to establish temporal order.  Some patients were identified through diagnosis codes, which might mean that they were diagnosed when they came for the pregnancy.

John - Anyone wants to predict when we will start seeing substantial exchange of patient data through implementation of systems that comply with Patient Rule?  Patient allows data to be pulled from claims system or other health care provider systems, SMART on FHIR API go into effect July 1, 2021.  

  • AllianceChicago - These discussions maybe going on w/in certain departments, not known.  Partner hospitals - there is a mechanism to exchange data, specifics are not known.
  • OCHIN - Not sure about the FHIR question. 
  • MW: How clinically necessary is it for the patient to have all the data if you are not providing long term/ongoing care to the patient?  Great for data collection, but is how useful is it?  LM: It is useful if they come back - patient has a lapse or presents as new; gathering the background info is really challenging.  JS: If someone else is taking care of them, that works, well, but if they have a condition but do not return, how do we identify who they are and find them to help them?
  • Nicole Ford - important to be able to track longer term outcomes.

Assist from John and Jayson

Ask if there are questions about the data

Reflections, comments, discussion12:15pm15m49 - 51

Slide from Menti Question 1

  • AllianceChicago - Learning about possibility -  learning of pregnancy episode - critical for buliding data, an EMR-led mechanism for case management for patients

Question 2: 

  • The opportunity on a national scale, in terms of consistent documentation for maternal and repro health that will faciliate better clinical care and research/analysis

Julia facilitate - have people raise hands?

Alyssa Foley switch screen to Mentimeter then open to discussion 

  1. Slide 1 What challenges from the project were you surprised impacted the quality of post-partum care?
  2. Slide 2 What is your biggest takeaway from what you just heard?

Leave slide up

Then go to discussion, Andrea Price Old Account (Deactivated) taking notes

Implications for the Future 12:30pm20m52 - 53
  • Given your lessons learned over the past couple of years, what would you think the next priority be to improve clinical decision support, increase access to high quality care for patients served at community health centers? What are your top three priorities? What would add value?

Julia facilitate, Alyssa Foley switch screen to  Mentimeter

  • Slide 3 What is your biggest motivator from this project?

Leave slide up

Then go to discussion

Scale and Spread12:503m54 - 56
  • The BPA has already been voted on for the GDM - if they had a result,  (??) this will move into production in July or August (12:38pm)
  • For the Express Lane, in September, will assess how it is used currently and see how it is being used and see if other service areas want to use it.  If so, they can put in a ticket and it can be spread to other centers.
  • Training materials - yes, there is training documentation for how to use it.   There are some who have used Express Lanes or Smart Sets before, others have not, so there may be two different trainings.
  • consistent documentation of episodes, consistent documentation of outcomes.  pretty much consistency and interoperability
  • AllianceChicago will be scaling and spreading this, starting with the pilot sites, and planning for this to go live in EHR in those sites over the next month, and get initial feasibility data then will go network-wide so all health centers caring for pregnant patients will be better able to do better case management on the front end and data extraction, data management on the back-end. Additionally, will have technological ability soon to create registries.
  • from Julia Skapik (privately):    12:45 PM
    Tableau dashboards--> health catalyst, registry approach
  • Ability to track (12:45pm) even if the person is not our patient?? 
  • 12:48 - lost this... see transcript
  • Kim Cardoso What can be taken out of the payor? Payor provides registries...  patient should be at the center, not tied to the payor or health center or county


  • Where should would you like to see these findings presented - OCHIN & Alliance conferences, CDC Conferences? Journal articles?

Julia facilitate - have people raise hands? 

Switch screen to Mentimeter

Slide 4 What did you hear that should be scaled and replicated?

Slide 5 Given the lessons learned, what would you suggest for next steps?

Go to Discussion Next Steps slide


Discussion on Next Steps
12:53257
  • Pending CDC funding, Learning Community for Obstetrics Informatics - how to deploy pregnancy registry, Express Lane.
  • Continuous care support - when we find out someone is pregnant, have a 12:52 transcript - have an ideal algorithm, and compare patient's trajectory - is the information being exchanged from hospital to clinic?
  • Lisa Romero:  measure and then determine the right metric to promote at a policy level 
  • LM: Look at the right outcomes to measure (maternal mortality is thankfully rare) how to link data sets to look at more vital statistics data - 12:55pm better metrics for utilization and encounters.  
  • MW: If what we believe will make a difference is more coordinated care, involve patients - motivate them to get care perhaps coordinated care would help, create a pregnancy registry for the community, in a city for example, like an HIE.  For those less likely to be motivated to get care, these interventions may not actually measure needs because those women do not participate 12:58pm.  


  • see Menti meter - Edit that last one to "involve the patient directly!"

ACOG Dorsata - reduced NICU days for the baby


Papers and PresentationsJulia Skapik (Deactivated)12:55258 - 59

ACOG Annual Meeting 2022

Women's Health Paper

Mentimeter 6 Where should would you like to see these findings presented?
Closing12:57360

Thank you to partners and CDC, to Kathy and Ron for guidance

EvaluationAndrea Price Old Account (Deactivated)



Create the 4-question Evaluation survey - (see NTTAP survey) Andrea will send out to participants. 

https://nachc.co1.qualtrics.com/surveys/SV_4N2OhyArfBownv8/edit






Would it have been better to just have open discussion or did we get more ideas from Mentimeter?
TimeItemWhoNotesAction Items
10mWelcome, Purpose, Goals and Structure of Harvest Meeting



NACHC WelcomeRon


CDC Welcome



30m

Partner Reports lessons learned, successes, opportunities for improvement, and barriers

  1. AllianceChicago
  2. Denver
  3. HealthEfficient
  4. HCN
  5. SouthCarolina




Key Topics: 

lessons learned, successes, opportunities for improvement, and barriers

key ingredients and program modifications to implement this project successfully in health centers





Setting up the next round for success: Where should we be moving in the next phase of the work, and what are the questions we want to be able to answer in this next year











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